DEAR ABBY: My hubby and I come from very different backgrounds. Maybe someone needs to slip a tranquilizer in her cranberry sauce. She said she has to order them online and it was very rude of me. This salad would also be a good option for Thanksgiving. Dear Prudence, My girlfriend is the chef and owner of a local restaurant that’s recently become extremely popular. Siouxsie and The Banshees – Dear Prudence The Cure – Plainsong The The – Giant Tones on Tale – Go. Advice columnist Mallory Ortberg shares her tips for how … However, my parents are the only family I have in town, and they were not invited. Thanks for coming. I’d like the men to help more, but I don’t want to ask any friends and guests to clean up if they haven’t offered. This would not be news you'd be required to announce at the next Thanksgiving gathering. Please try again. Let’s talk later.”, Dear Prudence,Last week, my youngest brother’s wife gave birth to a little girl, their first child and our parents’ first grandchild. If you value our work, please disable your ad blocker. You can manage your newsletter subscriptions at any time. I am the only one still grieving for my dad. In the meantime, you’re supposed to leave your parents alone on Thanksgiving because his family doesn’t consider your family to be part of the family. Did I do something wrong here? Emily Yoffe I hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving. While most adults don’t thrill at the idea of spending the night in a twin bed, sometimes it happens when one bunks with family, and insisting that your host clear out of her own bedroom for you—even if said host is your adult child—is out of line. Dear Prudence,I live in a friendly, family-oriented neighborhood—or at least it used to be until “X” moved in about two years ago. Of course, the nonsmoking part of the family doesn’t want any smoking in the house. Slate's advice columnist Dear Prudence takes your questions on manners, morals and more. Cooking stressed her. But if the idea of spending Thanksgiving by yourself doesn’t appeal, I think you still have options. This runs the gamut from telling him that there is no Santa Claus to a detailed description of the crimes of serial killers to an explanation of how animals are butchered for meat. (Questions may be edited.). Thursday may seem like it’s going to be an official day for family civil wars. It was amicable; I decided I wanted kids, he didn’t, and he lost his faith. My sister-in-law always takes credits for the pies I bring every year. Let me know if you make this for Thanksgiving by leaving a comment below. But I imagine you don’t relish the thought of doing so if it would cause him grief, and I can also imagine your getting in touch with these people may potentially upend their whole world if they don’t already know that your biological grandfather abandoned another family wholesale in the 1950s. And you'll never see this message again. By joining Slate Plus you support our work and get exclusive content. All contents © 2020 The Slate Group LLC. • Send questions for publication to prudence@slate.com. Here’s a recent Christmas-themed letter from Dear Prudence you might enjoy, with my advice to follow: My husband and I have two grown daughters, “Holly” and “Ivy.” I also have another much older daughter, “Gertrude,” born during my brief first marriage. The next day, my boyfriend’s sister drove me back to the airport and lectured me, saying I should have asked for shampoo and conditioner from her and not used the fancy ones in the bathroom. It wasn’t the biggest deal in the world, but you don’t have to agree with me in order to acknowledge that it’s reasonable for me to have disliked it.” It may also help if you can drop the request for him to apologize to your family, since it doesn’t sound like anyone else has expressed a desire for an apology. Hopefully he can come to see that acknowledging your feelings and perspective doesn’t mean he “loses” and that this moment could have gone better had he been willing to ask himself, “What part of me feels so uncomfortable in this happy, loving scenario that I need to imagine a future where all of these people hate and resent one another?”, “My family are Christians who are active in the Episcopal Church. Like Prudie on the official Dear Prudence Facebook page and like  Slate on Facebook. Why is my guest room not acceptable? “On the off chance he eats your kid PLEASE SUPERVISE HIM.”Daniel Mallory Ortberg and Nicole Cliffe discuss this letter in this week’s Dear Prudence Uncensored—only for Slate Plus members. This past election season, he ran for our local city council election and came close to winning. My husband is an atheist. I don’t mean to downplay how totally out of proportion and distressing this man’s behavior has been, but for someone this intense and unreasonable, the best way forward is to avoid him as much as you and your son possibly can. She’ll be online at Washingtonpost.com to chat with readers each Monday at 1 p.m. My grandmother remarried, and I love and admire my grandfather, who is still living. He began coming to our family events, which was fine at first. This led me to an interest in Pilgrim and Puritan history, and a few stories I like to recount on Thanksgiving. I also feel that at her age, she can do what she wants in my home. ... You’ve got little time to address this so that Thanksgiving is not a debacle. Or should I skip my family’s dinner and make other plans with my date? Her 17-year-old granddaughter, who lives on the other side of the country, is a vegan. I expected my father’s father would be dead. Thanks for signing up! • Call the voicemail of the Dear Prudence podcast at 401-371-DEAR (3327) to hear your question answered on a future episode of the show. I encouraged her to continue with Thanksgiving plans and said I would join my date and his family for Thanksgiving elsewhere. Before we began dating, I explained to my boyfriend that I was looking for marriage and children. Dear Prudie,I’m in my early 30s and have been dating the love of my life for three years. For the record, my parents have invited his over for parties, dinner, and holidays. This upsets me: I got married at 20, separated at 29, and divorced at 31. Dear Prudence, I dread Thanksgiving. Do I reach out to this stranger? Annie just told me that she would like to be invited to Thanksgiving." Now everyone else says they should be allowed to smoke inside if my grandmother is doing it. Dear Prudence, I work in a small office, and one of my coworkers decided to spearhead a charitable holiday project in which we all chip in to buy presents … However, there is the kind of remembrance that is normal and natural: “Remember how Dad always claimed the turkey legs for himself?” And then there is turning family gatherings into a permanent memorial service. She and her mom and family are coming to grandma’s for Thanksgiving. Can you help me?—Sleeping Arrangements, I want to make a real plug here for spending Thanksgiving at a hotel by yourself near the ocean. My mother, younger brother, and I took it hard. Your situation is designed for the drop-by. Because he did so well, he is being courted by the local party to run in another local election in 2012. By the time I got to the house, I just wanted to take a shower and get clean. I was taken aback, because I’ve always thought of that as pretty normal guest behavior. About a year after my dad’s death, she started dating a nice man. You want marriage and children, and you don’t have lots of time to waste, but here you are, snooping in his sock drawer to see if there’s a wedding ring hidden there, and waiting for your boyfriend to decide your fate. We are never specifically invited by my sister-in-law, who doesn't phone or invite us personally; she does not speak with us throughout the year. My Son Keeps Stealing My Flavored Condoms. Put in a heater and a comfortable chair, and let Grandma—and the rest of the addicted gang—puff away. Daniel Mallory Ortberg, Slate’s Dear Prudence, is co-founder of the Toast and the author of Texts From Jane Eyre and The Merry Spinster. When it seemed we no longer spoke about Dad at all due to this gentleman, I talked to my mom about it. All contents © 2020 The Slate Group LLC. Dear Smoked,Smoked turkey is a delicious dish. I have tried to explain that one smoker is different from 15 of them. The guest bathroom had a pretty arrangement of toiletries (minisoap, shampoos, etc.) Do you want to develop a relationship with your cousins? Dear Prudence is Slate's advice column, where Danny M. Lavery responds to your questions about relationships at home, work, and beyond. Am I being “too uptight”?—No Joke, You don’t want to endlessly rehash this with your boyfriend, because in the grand scheme of things it was a relatively little moment, but you should also be able to have conversations about jokes that bother you. Do you want to ask for an explanation or apology on your father’s behalf? When it comes to this newfound fear of serial killers, you can keep reminding him that he’s safe with you, that there are very few of them, and that your neighbor was trying to scare him—which may lead to its own conversation about how to give a wide berth to someone who clearly doesn’t want company. Or do I leave it well enough alone and say it was never meant to be?—Family Ties. I told everyone to bring a dish or dessert and I would cater in. You have welcomed her companion into the family, so he should be grown-up enough to respect the memory of the man who came first. Daniel Mallory Ortberg, Slate’s Dear Prudence, is co-founder of the Toast and the author of Texts From Jane Eyre and The Merry Spinster. But since your grandmother sounds as if she’s still moving under her own power, maybe you could set up the garage as a smoldering anteroom. Dear Prudie,Ours is the home my family and my husband’s family come to for holiday meals, and I am more than happy to play hostess. The Specter of Famine Dear Prudence,I recently did some research on an ancestry website about my recently deceased grandmother’s family. He abandoned my grandmother with two children in England in the 1950s, went AWOL from the Air Force, and was never heard from again. She is 91 years old, and I would never ask her to stand outside in the cold. Last year, he volunteered to give the blessing at Thanksgiving. I worried constantly about my mom. You don’t have to get into a conversation about sex in order to say no to this request. He won’t apologize, either to me or my family, which is infuriating. It will help clarify what the next right move is, to have more specific aims than “satisfy my curiosity.” If you’re willing to run the various risks, then it would be kind to tell your father before contacting any of these potential new family members. His sister lives in the Deep South, while we live on the coast. Got a burning question for Prudie? If a host says, “Here’s the guest bathroom” and nothing else, no reasonable person would assume, “Before I use the towels and toiletries provided by the shower, I should ask if there is a secret backup stash of towels and toiletries I’m supposed to use instead.” It’s fine to be a little fussy as a host, but then it’s incumbent on you to tell your guests what they can and can’t use. I appreciate this, but when I take them up on their offer, there’s a gender imbalance in the kitchen I’m uncomfortable with. How can I change?” Posted Jan. 28, 2010.”His Endowment Is Cocktail Chatter: My wife blabs to her girlfriends about my large penis. I used them without thinking, just like I borrowed a shirt and a toothbrush from my boyfriend. I don’t suppose you could tell Granny you want her to quit her habit because you’re worried it will shorten her life. It would be one thing for your sister to say there is simply no room for your party of four—which would be awkward—but I can’t get over her threat to scrub the holiday. And you'll never see this message again. Slate Plus members get extra questions, Prudie Uncensored with Nicole Cliffe, and full-length podcast episodes every week. Have another conversation with your mother in which you explain that you’re thrilled she’s found someone wonderful, but if something reminds you of your father, you want to be able to mention it without self-consciousness. There will be other Thanksgivings—it happens every year—and right now it sounds like you’re pretty overwhelmed by the family pressure to be more “over” your father’s death than you are. Am I a bad daughter for wanting to go to my boyfriend's at Christmas?" Every year, millions of people across the nation take to the roads, rails and skies to make it home in time for this special day. Surely everyone will benefit from the fact that the Thanksgiving meal tends to put even the most volatile among us into a stupor. All rights reserved. Slate relies on advertising to support our journalism. Do I have any recourse here? I never thought I’d find a living man. I actually don’t understand why, after two years together, you would agree to an open-ended cohabitation. He grew up in a community where all the moms had to work. As we were all gathered in the hospital, ooh-ing and ahh-ing over the little morsel, my long-term boyfriend thought it would be “funny” to call out during that special moment, “Wait until 18 years from now, when she’s screaming that she hates you and ya gotta figure out a way to pay for college!” This was said to my brother, as he was holding and gently rocking his newborn daughter. You can cancel anytime. Follow us on Twitter. Is there a way around this cleanup issue, or am I forever doomed to do all the dishes by myself the next morning?—Thanksgiving Cleanup Anxiety. I’m hosting a Friendsgiving, and some people will bring their own dishes or booze, so I don’t even know if it’s appropriate to ask for help if they’ve contributed something to dinner. Isn’t that disgusting?” Posted Aug. 27, 2009.”Lunchroom Bandit: My co-worker is stealing everyone’s food” Posted Dec. 3, 2009. If you’d be willing to reconsider doing so if your father were strongly against it, then tell him you’ll wait to hear from him before doing so. Our relationship is now very strained. “If the guest bedroom doesn’t work for you two, I’ll understand if you decide to rent a hotel room” isn’t the equivalent of “My house, my rules, so put up or shut up, Mom.” But it’s a line worth holding to, and if your mother keeps pressing the issue, then you can tell her that you’re genuinely happy that she’s found someone but that you’re having a really hard time dealing with your dad’s death, still need space, and think it will be best to see everyone for Thanksgiving dinner while having separate places to sleep. He refuses to see that there’s anything wrong and tells me to get over myself. I thought he wanted the same things. I noticed we spoke less and less about my dad, mostly out of consideration for my mother’s friend. You can tell your boyfriend about it, not in the interest of causing trouble but to find out if his sister has any other quirks you should know about before visiting again: “Last time we stayed with your sister, she got really angry with me for using the shampoo and towels in the guest bathroom. Is that normal?” Posted Oct. 8, 2009.”Dirty Pretty Things: My girlfriend has worn the same undergarment for weeks. Dear Prudence,My father died last year after a long illness, and my mother immediately moved on to a new beau. I’m Too Hot for My Age: Prudie counsels a woman whose youthful looks bring her nothing but problems—and other advice seekers.” Posted Feb. 8, 2010.”The Pervy Principal: Prudie counsels a school worker whose boss trolls Internet porn on the job—and other advice seekers.” Posted Feb. 1, 2010.”Sticky Fingers Can’t Stop Stealing: Prudie counsels a good Samaritan gone bad—and other advice seekers.” Posted Jan. 25, 2010. I sometimes end up refusing because I hate the optics of it: The men sit around drinking, while the women wash up. We spoke daily, and I did my best to make holidays and special occasions as fun as possible. Reply . My husband and I are expected to attend a family yearly Thanksgiving dinner hosted by my husband's sister and brother-in-law. Should I rescind the invitation to his family and have the two of us attend my family’s dinner, even though he doesn’t want to leave his daughter alone? Given the age and precarious health of your relatives, you might want to explain to your beau that your family comes a little unglued when they get together, so you need to join them solo for the meal, but you would love it if he and his brood could come by for dessert. Dear Prudie,A little over three years ago, my dad passed away suddenly. We moved in together a year ago. I have a bit of a problem coming up with Thanksgiving. I asked my boyfriend whether, if we were married, my parents would have been invited, and he said yes, which made me wish I hadn’t asked. Dear Prudence, I work at an elementary school with a very needy population. It is simply the nature of moving on that as the years go by, the void left by the dead is filled with the chatter of the concerns of the living. And, if you love this recipe for a shredded brussels spouts salad, check out this recipe for cornbread panzanella salad with peaches. I haven’t told my boyfriend because I didn’t want to cause trouble, but we are going back to his sister’s for the holidays. That way, whatever comes next, you’ll be ready to handle it. Slate is published by The Slate Group, a Graham Holdings Company. Slate is published by The Slate Group, a Graham Holdings Company. But I’m curious, and based on genealogical information, publicly available information, and family resemblance, I’m certain I’ve found my biological grandfather—as well as several other relatives that would mean siblings for my father, and uncles, aunts, and cousins for me. The nonsmokers will have to cough their way through the meal. Across the Universe - Dear Prudence - Jim Sturgess; Evan Rachel Wood; T.V. He says that he still does, but after a year of living together, we are not married and there is no engagement ring in sight. Mary later married John Winslow, Edward’s brother, so there is a tie to the Winslow family. and fluffy towels right by the bath. The thought of my mother having sex with her boyfriend in my bed makes me want to vomit. I feel as though I have lost both parents, and I am dreading the upcoming holidays. Enjoy this shredded brussels sprouts salad recipe! I had never heard that version before. Tell your boyfriend either his family finds two more seats at the table, or you are going to have to decline their invitation and spend Thanksgiving with your parents. Holly and … on Nov 23, 2020 at 12:17 am. The problem is, I said my grandmother could smoke inside. Help! “Abuser Seeks a Way Out: I’m an emotional bully to all my girlfriends. I felt like a 6-year-old getting lectured for having an “accident.” My boyfriend and I got back home, but this situation still bothers me. Dear Prudence Doesn't Think You Should Bother Coming Out as Bisexual. Dear Not,Your letter is a perfect example of how moving in together can get you further away from your life goals if a clear plan for achieving those goals is not part of the discussion you have before signing the lease. How do I persuade this angry, unpleasant man that harming a child with words is out of order? There was a raffle for a full Thanksgiving dinner, in which all PTA members were entered. You’ve run out of free articles. Slate relies on advertising to support our journalism. What should I do about all this?—Not So Thankful. Dear Prudence, My large, extended family—including my 96-year-old grandmother and my ailing parents—is getting together for Thanksgiving at my sister’s house. Lindy West. Dear Prudence Butter Brawl Prudie counsels a woman who lost her cool after being fat-shamed at Thanksgiving. However, instead of a prayer he took us all by surprise with a two-minute rant about ‘the myth of God.’ Everyone was upset, and it ruined the meal. “Callous Co-Workers Count My Calories: Prudie counsels an American whose European colleagues monitor her diet—and other advice seekers.” Posted March 1, 2010.”Help! You can tell him what you’ve found, say you understand if he doesn’t want to hear anything else about it, and let him know that you’re considering getting in touch. 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